Out in the Wild

An Army officer firing a Glock 17.

SHAH ALAM: Out in the wild. It appears that a number of HK 9s and Vektor SP1 semi-automatic pistols have been surplused by the Army, had ended up in the US. It appears that even gun writer Ian McCollum of the Forgotten Weapons fame cannot confirmed that it was surplused from here. McCollum did a video on the SP1 after an example he bought had a broken part in it, making it a safety issue.

He said the SP1 was sold cheaply – $400 (RM1522) even though it was a very rare gun. He said the importer of the pistols – IArms LLC- had brought a batch of 9S and SP1 to the US to be sold to firearm dealers in the country. He said SP1 were pretty beaten up though he didnt mind it as it was a very item in the US, even though it was just a copy of the Berretta 92 pistol. Watch the video here

Vektor SP1 pistol.

It is interesting to note that in the comments section, a commenter noted that the guns were sold to IArms by a Malaysian company called Andalan Perkasa Sdn Bhd. A quick Google search on my part showed that Andalan Perkasa is indeed a licensed fireams dealer in Malaysia. Not much details is available on the search results but the company has a Facebook page, which stated it is a licensed firearms dealer but nothing else.
Army officers training on their Glock pistols. BTDM

Anyhow it is impossible for me to determine whether or not that the pisotls surplused in the US are indeed from the Army. The Army did use the P9S and SP1 in the 1990s after they transitioned from the Browning HP pistols. Currently there are number of pistols in the inventory there are mostly Glocks though I have seen Sig Sauer and CZ pistols I had.
An Army officer firing a Glock 17.BTDM

I know for a fact that surplused firearms from the military, police and likely other agencies are sometimes barter traded to new ones. It is the most likely route for the 9S and SP1s. That said not all retired firearms are sold off though, they remained stored in armouries around the country. It must also be noted that even surplus ammo from the Army had also been sold overseas, most of them the US.

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13 Comments

  1. Extrinsic value low due to being worn out, & defective.
    Intrinsic value high due to rarity of being a copy of a more famous pistol.

    How does one put a fair value on it?

  2. @…
    Hahaha. But I wonder why would Muricans want with worn out and borked sidearms. It didn’t sound like there was a demand for them, nor any reason Muricans would prefer them over their vast choices & brand new shiny ones at affordable prices. Neither does the low price indicates it is a collectors item so kind of befuddles me there was someone willing to buy literal scrap and reselling to USA gun market. Usually the scrap goes the other way around.

  3. AFAIK, The Only Latest one Is CZ P-10 Right. Should be used by GGK and 10th Paratropper Brigade.

    Also, Does M1911A1 still used by GGK Force Marhalim ?

    Reply
    AFAIK GGK never used the M1911A1. They used to have Browning High Powers before transitioning to HK 9S and Vector SP1 and then Glocks. I have shot the GGK SP1s, they were well worn. By even then GGK already used Glocks but the rest of the Army was still using the HK 9S and the HP. I was told early on the Army was wary of using Glocks as they didn’t have manual safety like the 9S and HP. That said they have now mostly transitioned to Glocks as well. The only people who used manual safety on their Glocks in Malaysia were the BSN auxiliary police. This was on the advice of the police, I was told.

  4. @…
    Nope. I am a collector of something but even those in my circle knows what is precious and what is junk. Top dollar is what separates the two. In this case, the 2 sidearms ain’t anything precious to gun collectors and this reflects in their low valuation. Perhaps you should rethink on your assumptions.

  5. @ joe

    there are people who collects what is called “unobtainables” that sometimes majority of people does not care much about. the vektor is a rarity in the states, while it does not mean that it has very high prices, it is still difficult to get hold of.

  6. @joe

    you are not a gun collector. they like rare guns, they don’t have to be high quality. you should rethink your assumptions.

  7. @Bob
    It doesn’t matter if I’m a gun collector or a stamp collector or a bottlecap collector, if within a collectors circle certain items are considered rare and desirable it will command a high price. Just because certain things are rare, doesn’t mean it is highly valued. Say for example, a first edition mint Proton Saga is rare but it doesn’t have a high demand price unless you can find the right buyer but those are normally atypical.

  8. @joe

    no point arguing, you got called out for being so very very wrong. Just admit your mistake and keep quiet

  9. The Malaysian Airports Aviation Security Unit (Which is the FIRST user of Glock series in Malaysia, 1992) also already replacing their Glock, S&W M10, Walther PPK and S&W M36 with CZ SP01 Phantom.

    They also replacing their H&K MP5A3 SF and Remington M870 with Beretta CX4 Carbine and Fabarms Series Shotgun.

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