New Zealand Seeking to Buy Poseidons

SHAH ALAM: In the MPA postings recently, I wrote that it was unlikely that Malaysia will get the Boeing P-8A Poseidon as maritime patrollers. It is too expensive, I wrote. It is expensive for us of course though others might think otherwise.

Which are the other countries that might think that it is not too expensive? Singapore and New Zealand comes to mind. In fact, New Zealand which is looking to replace its Orion P-3K has been cleared by the US to buy four Poseidon for US$1.46 billion.

At the current exchange rate, it is RM6.33 billion or around RM1.5 billion per plane.
MPA Requirements, Part 1

Chilean Navy C295 MPA. Airbus

For a single Poseidon, we could get at least five CN-235 MPA or the same number of C295s or the ATR 72 MPA. Guess we will have to stick with the twin turboprops or smaller jets, then.
MPA Requirements, Part 2

Leonardo ATR 72 MP. Leonardo

Note that New Zealand has yet to select its new MPA and the announcement by the US State Department below is just a notice for a possible FMS buy which is required by its law. With Australia getting the Poseidon as well – 12 ordered with three as option – it might be good for New Zealand to pick the same aircraft as well.

A rear end of the RAAF AP-3PC Orion aircraft at LIMA 17. This aircraft is likely the one based at Butterworth AB as part of the FPDA.

As Australia and New Zealand are our partners in FPDA, we are likely to have a single Poseidon based here in the future, just like the current arrangement with a AP-3C stationed at Butterworth. This could happened once the Poseidon achieved the Initial Operational Capability, which is slated by 2020.

MPA Requirements, Part 3

The Royal Australian Air Force’s first P-8A Poseidon, A47-001 fly in formation with a current AP-3C Orion over their home Base of RAAF Base Edinburgh in South Australia. RAAF

And if Singapore also orders the Poseidon – to replace its Fokker 50 MPA – we also might get some benefit from it, though how much is beyond me.

WASHINGTON, Apr. 28, 2017 – The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to New Zealand for P-8A aircraft and associated support. The estimated cost is $1.46 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on April 27, 2017.

New Zealand has requested the potential sale of up to four (4) P-8A Patrol aircraft. Each includes: commercial engines, Tactical Open Mission Software (TOMS), Electro-Optical (EO) and Infrared (IR) MX-20HD, AN/AAQ-2(V)1 Acoustic System, AN/APY-10 Radar, ALQ-240 Electronic Support Measures. Also included are eight (8) Multifunctional Information Distribution System Joint Tactical Radio System (MIDS JTRS); five (5) Guardian Laser Transmitter Assemblies (GLTA) for the AN/AAQ-24(V)N; five (5) System Processors for AN/AAQ-24(V)N; thirty (30) AN/AAR-54 Missile Warning Sensors for the AN/AAQ-24(V)N; ten (10) LN-251 with Embedded Global Positioning Systems (GPS)/Inertial Navigations Systems (EGIs); support equipment; operation support systems; maintenance trainer/classrooms; publications; software, engineering, and logistics technical assistance; foreign Liaison officer support, contractor engineering technical services; repair and return; transportation; aircraft ferry; and other associated training, support equipment and services. The total estimated cost is $1.46 billion.

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This proposed sale will enhance the foreign policy and national security of the United States by strengthening the security of a Major Non-NATO ally which has been, and continues to be, an important force for political stability within the region. New Zealand is a close ally in the region and an important partner on critical foreign policy and defense issues.

The Government of New Zealand intends to use these defense articles and services to continue its Maritime Surveillance Aircraft (MSA) capability, following retirement of its P-3K maritime patrol aircraft.

The sale will strengthen collective defense and enhance New Zealand’s regional and global allied contributions.

New Zealand has procured and operated U.S. produced P-3 MSA for over 40 years, providing critical capabilities to NATO and coalition maritime operations. New Zealand has maintained a close MSA acquisition and sustainment relationship with the U.S. Navy over this period. The proposed sale will allow New Zealand to recapitalize, modernize and sustain its MSA capability for the next 30 years. As a long-time P-3 operator, New Zealand will have no difficulty transitioning its MSA force to the P-8A and absorbing these aircraft into its armed forces.

— Malaysian Defence

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