KUALA LUMPUR: With the floating of the tender below, Malaysian Defence is guessing that the Land Rover Defender will remain in service in the armed forces, at least until 2020.
Even with the seasonal purchases of Vamtacs, G-Wagens and Fords, the Defender remained the numero uno 4×4 in the armed forces namely the Army, mostly for liaison duties.
It certainly makes one wonder why we keep purchasing other 4X4s when the good ole Defenders are up to the ob on most part even if other countries are moving away from the marque and into bigger better protected vehicles.
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Why do we need a Landie Simulator? Why don’t we just put people in a Landie with a roll cage and a 4-point harness with safety clothing? Hell, I’ve done a roll over in a Nissan Patrol and then had an instructor yelling at me about how to unass and get into a gunfight. Boy that was fun!
Marhalim: Its probably because simulators are in-thing right now…of course it will probably be cheaper to buy 10 Defenders specifically for training purposes than buying a high fidelity simulator and the building to house…unless you are building a simulator designed for close combat training,…
I’m just hoping the TDs maintanance habits improve. As mentioned earlier, I was that large number of Pinzgauers are in the scrap yard because personnel were not trained to maintain them. Similiarly, TD in the past has had problems with its BV206 fleet. Who knows? Maybe in the near future, a new, unamoured 4×4 will be selected, to add to the G wagons and Vamtacs.
Intrestingly, the interior modifications done to the newest Land Rovers in service were done locally and are not approved by Land Rover UK.
Land Rover India please.
Yes, and when that simulator breaks down? I can at least take a Landie to Ah Chong Workshop and have it fixed. One simualtor…..how many drivers do they intend to train?
It’s official….the Army is *****
According to the BBC, the TNI-AL has announced that it can only use 5 ships a day to patrol the whole Indonesian coast.
What’s the fascination with landrovers anyways? easy to fix? cheap spare parts? unmatched offroad capability?
Regarding the pinzgauers.. perhaps the government/jpj/whatever should allow those (retired army trucks etc) to be reregisted as regular road vehicles. I am pretty sure a lot of enthusiasts are waiting eagerly to get their hands on those fellas, especially with the lockable differentials and all that. With usual malaysian ingenuity in engineering, some workshop would be able to fit any turbodiesels into those trucks. Even giving those to perhilitan, forestery etc would serve something better than laying in the scrapyard…
p/s I want one! 🙂
marhalim: I do not know the reason for the Landie fascination, any one into 4×4 knows Toyota Hilux is a better vehicles, in all respect.
Technically I believe all government equipment must be disposed/scrap properly. So you could buy several items which had been scrapped and cobbled together to make or modify into another vehicle like those drive trains of the old volvos which were grafted into original Toyota Landcruisers to make them into super 4×4 trucks. Of course, it will be difficult to register them as road worthy vehicles, so just use them as lori hantu!
There is no surplus market here in Malaysia unlike the ROW. Which is good anyway since there will be a lot of questions for the disposal as was the original purchase!
i 101% confident most of our workshop can fix the vehicle to be disposal to the new vehicle.
look how the modify the motor for rempit.anyway we can save budget using that way rather than buying new vehicle at this time.we can save the money.but i don thing the top officer thinking like that.they cannot mark up anything using this way.u know how the cronies our contry.hahahahaha
According to a very reliable source, the problem with the Pinzgauer is that it has a unique suspension system, a drive train with a tube type chassis. Unless there are trained people who can perform regular preventive maintainance like in the British or Kiwi army, there will be problems. Thats why a number of Pinzgauers have been seen in scrapyards. Lets hope the same thing does not happen to the MAN 8x8s which carry the TRS3D radar and Vickers bridge.
As for the Hilux, the version used by the Malaysian army for ligt duties, unlike earlier versions, has an inferior off road capability to the Land Rover. I also suspect that the Land Rover will not wear out as fast if properly mantained.
Shame about the Pinzgauers. I’ve always liked those vehicles!
I highly recommend the Tata LSV (Light Strike Vehicle). http://www.defencesolutions-tatamotors.com/tactical/lsv.html
The big + to a Landie is the AL bodywork. Does not rust.
URO Vamtacs cost RM660,000 per unit? Isn’t that kind of pricey?
Marhalim: I have not figured out the actual price for the Vamtacs we purchased last year but our military always paid premium prices for its equipment. That is why people are scrambling to get over Mindef pearly gates………
Hmmm, Military Humvee from AM General I believe costs around US$90-100k.
But perhaps ATM should look into Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles.
I been roaming around the countryside photographing ex-mindef stuff in junkyards. I know of one in Ipoh and one in Kerling but never saw the ARV or many Pinzgauer.
Anyone have any addresses for these scrapyards as would make an interesting weekend tour with the camera. I seen Landrovers but definately no armoured stuff.
As always unless you have somebody been there these places are impossible to find.
Regarding Landrovers, I found one Landrover Lightweight. Don’t know what it was doing here as pretty sure never was in service here
Marhalim: Theres one complete Volvo truck at a junk/4X4 workshop at Bentong just before the Sultan Sulaiman School. I dont think its workable though as it is place on top of other wrecks. I have seen a 6×6 Volvo truck on the road to Sg Koyan, Raub, several years ago carrying palm oil, I am not sure its active however. I too wondered about the Sibmas ARV as only a few were actually bought. I believe one is a static exhibit at the army museum in PD, As for the Pinzgauers, several have been written off due to accidents, so the wrecks could be out there. Try looking at junkyards in Malacca and Muar, you might just get lucky.
actually that is a good question Landrover Lightweights…… I have not seen them on any Malaysian Military register and only seen one in a scrapyard.
But I recall this UK dealer selling them http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Land-Rover-Lightweight-Rear-Light-Panel-LH-Lower_W0QQitemZ4633322446QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4633322446&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
I think maybe Brunei perhaps?
“Marhalim: Theres one complete Volvo truck at a junk/4X4 workshop at Bentong just before the Sultan Sulaiman School. I dont think its workable though as it is place on top of other wrecks. I have seen a 6×6 Volvo truck on the road to Sg Koyan, Raub, several years ago carrying palm oil, I am not sure its active however. I too wondered about the Sibmas ARV as only a few were actually bought. I believe one is a static exhibit at the army museum in PD, As for the Pinzgauers, several have been written off due to accidents, so the wrecks could be out there. Try looking at junkyards in Malacca and Muar, you might just get lucky.”
I been collecting a few piccys, I have the old Kia’s, Landrovers, Benz trucks. The Volvo C303’s are rare as some crafty guy fit their axles to Landrover. I really am interested in the Pinz and the armour. Why do you think around Malacca and Muar?
Another vehicle I heard come here for trials was Humber Pig, but never seen a piccy in service here.
Anyway, interesting blog as I often marvel at the procument rationale here i.e. such a mixture of stuff so must be a logistical nightmare.
Marhalim: the PAC are the unit with most Pinzgauers around. Since its located at Malacca, it most logical that any wrecks would be around Malacca and Muar. I dont think they will leave any armour lying around at junkyards though.
well I think I just about searched all of Ipoh today and saw no Sibmas ARV.
Found more Landrovers, Stonefield, Volvo’s and old trucks of various kinds. Will try Malacca perhaps tomorrow and see if can find some crashed Pinzgauers.
If I find a Sibmas ARV, I’ll send a piccy.
The Sibmas ARV seen by my friend at Ipoh was 3 years ago. Probably has since been turned into scrap. I believe the number of ARV variants bought was 24.
I’d love to be able to buy a Ferret Scout Car. Lovely machine! It’s got a Rolls-Royce engine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferret_Armoured_Car
Marhalim: I also want a Panther but I know if I do not become a zillionaire all I can afford are plastic kits….
I ended up flying to Kuching and seeing a 718 6×6 Pinzgauer a guy bought and is JPJ registered. To get JPJ registration the Army supplies a letter, in this case an Ordanance corps Major.
Does anyone have any contacts for Ordanance as I have a 716 Pinzgauer that I want to export to Australia, but to do this I have to get the letter and JPJ registration card.
The Major in Kuching says I have to get from West Malaysia but I don’t have any contacts on this side. I have a copy of the letter I require just no-one to ask.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
This weekend there will be an auction on 2 units pinzgauer 4×4 vehicle in Shah Alam. Still good looking. No accidents or whatsoever. visit here…
see you guys this sunday.
Used military vehicles are always a better choice. they are stylish, trendy and are amazing when you drive them
tg malim..nearby kerling junkyard
everyday i saw pinzgauer,jeep,
land rover ..but the price damn
so expensive and summore the chinese
girl inside the jundyard..arrogant and dumb..